Kyle Rittenhouse, 18, accuses Biden of 'malice' and of 'defaming him' with 'white supremacist' label and says he's had to hire bodyguards in first interview since acquittal: Tells Tucker Carlson he wants to 'lay low' and could become a lawyer
Kyle Rittenhouse has opened up about his year from hell after being charged with murder for fatally shooting two protesters, wrongly branded a white supremacist and jailed for almost three months - until he was acquitted of all charges last week when a court found he'd been acting in self defense.
Rittenhouse, 18, spoke to Tucker Carlson on Monday night in his first post-acquittal interview where he revealed he'd been forced to hire bodyguards after his release on Friday due to multiple death threats.
He lays some of the blame for the level of vitriol on Joe Biden who he accused of 'defamation' and 'malice' after the president labeled him a white supremacist last year. The teen also confirmed he was considering legal action.
But most of all, he was hoping for a 'quiet stress-free life'.
'And (to) be free of any intimidation or harassment and just go on with my life as a normal 18-year-old kid attending college,' said Rittenhouse, who is currently studying nursing at Arizona State, and hoping to be able to attend in-person classes on campus.
The events of the last 15 months have also made him consider a career in law.
But, he said, he was scared to be alone in public.
'I'm at a place now to where I have to have people with me, because people want to kill me just because I defended myself, and they are too ignorant to look at the facts of what happened,' he said.
'I see some of the threats. Some of the things people say is absolutely sickening.'
Rittenhouse sat down with Carlson days after being cleared on Friday of homicide, attempted homicide and reckless endangerment in the shooting deaths of Joseph Rosenbaum, 36, and Anthony Huber, 26, and the wounding of Gaige Grosskreutz, 27.
Kyle Rittenhouse on Monday night accused Joe Biden of defamation, saying he acted with 'malice' and his lawyers were contemplating suing
Rittenhouse sat down with Carlson days after being cleared of homicide, attempted homicide and more in the shooting deaths of two men
Carlson spoke to DailyMail.com hours before his exclusive interview airs Monday night on Tucker Carlson Tonight. 'I don't think he sees himself as a poster boy for anything. In fact, he emphatically doesn't. And that's part of the tragedy of it,' Carlson said
In the interview, Rittenhouse:
- Said that he supported the Black Lives Matter movement and their right to peaceful protest, but could not condone the burning of businesses and rioting done in their name
- Said he felt the BLM protests in August 2020, after the shooting by Jacob Blake by a white police officer, had been taken over by 'communists'
- Told how he was in Kenosha working his summer job as a lifeguard on August 24; stayed the night in the city, watched the rioting on television, and then on August 25 started the day cleaning graffiti from a school
- Described his first encounter with Rosenbaum, saying that the 36-year-old - who he would fatally shoot later that evening - said he would kill him, if he found him alone. He said Rosenbaum shortly after crossed paths with his group again, and said he wanted 'to f**king kill you, cut your hearts out you f**king N words'
- Detailed the chaos of the shooting on August 25, and insisted once again that he was frightened for his life and fired in self-defense
- Told how he tried to hand himself in immediately, and was left 'dizzy, vomiting' and unable to breathe adter the shooting
- Described his 87-days in jail, and said his first set of lawyers - Lin Wood and John Pierce - were not interested in his welfare, and only concerned with advancing their political causes and making money off him
- Said he had contemplated moving to Naples, Florida before the shooting, but is now unsure where he will live. He is certain he will leave the Mid West, and is searching for a quiet life
Asked where the police were, in the chaos and rioting after the shooting of Jacob Blake, Rittenhouse replied: 'I'm not sure really.'
He added: 'They have a hard job, for sure.'
He criticized the leadership of the state and city.
'The National Guard should have been called August 23.
'The city of Kenosha failed the community.
'The governor, Tony Evers, failed the community.'
Jurors decided the rifle-wielding teen opened fire in self-defense as the trio chased and attacked him during the August 2020 riots in Kenosha, Wisconsin sparked by the police shooting of Jacob Blake, a black male.
'I FEAR FOR MY LIFE'
Rittenhouse said he has hired bodyguard to protect him, and plans to move away and live a quiet life, as 'people want to kill me, just because I defended myself.'
He said he had received multiple death threats, and feared for his life.
'I was an innocent 17 year old who was violently attacked and defended myself,' he said.
'Apparently for a lot of the people on the left it is wrong to want to defend your community.
'I have to have people with me because people want to kill me, just because I defended myself.
'Some of the things people say, it's just sickening.'
Rittenhouse's attorney Mark Richards said that Rittenhouse is in counseling for PTSD and can't sleep at night
Rittenhouse, 18, collapsed in tears as the jury in his double murder trial acquitted him of all charges after four torturous days of deliberation and weeks of testimony
Clearly disappointed, prosecutor Thomas Binger, who has been heavily criticized for his actions during the case, sat back in his chair, looked at the ceiling, and issued a sigh as the verdict came in
Rittenhouse fatally shot Joseph Rosenbaum (left), 36, with an AR-15-style semiautomatic rifle after Rosenbaum chased Rittenhouse across a parking lot and threw a plastic bag at him shortly before midnight on August 25, 2020. Moments later, as Rittenhouse was running down a street, he shot and killed Anthony Huber (right), 26, a protester from Silver Lake, Wisconsin
'DEFAMED BY BIDEN'
One of the most high-profile people to condemn Rittenhouse before the full facts were known was Joe Biden, who, as a candidate, tweeted an image of the teenager with a caption calling him a 'white supremacist'.
On September 30, 2020, the then-candidate tweeted a video montage of far-right groups who Donald Trump the day before, during a presidential debate, refused to condemn.
Biden tweeted an attack on Trump, stating: 'There's no other way to put it: the President of the United States refused to disavow white supremacists on the debate stage last night.'
The tweet showed Rittenhouse, featured alongside the neo-Nazis marching through Charlotte and Proud Boys.
Joe Biden, pictured on Monday, has been strongly criticized for lumping Rittenhouse alongside white supremacists and neo-Nazis in a September 2020 tweet
Biden shared a video clip on Twitter denouncing white supremacists that including a photo of Rittenhouse wielding a gun
White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki refused to discuss on November 15 Joe Biden calling Kyle Rittenhouse a 'white supremacist' last year
Biden has been repeatedly called on to apologize for the tweet, and since Rittenhouse's acquittal on Friday the calls have only got stronger.
During the trial - which ran from November 2-19 - Jen Psaki, the White House press secretary, was asked if Biden regretted his tweet.
'What I'm not going to speak to right now is anything about an ongoing trial nor the president's past comments,' Psaki said, even though the president commented on the situation before it was litigated.
'What I can reiterate for you is the president's view that we shouldn't have, broadly speaking, vigilantes patrolling our communities with assault weapons.
'We shouldn't have opportunists corrupting peaceful protests by rioting and burning down the communities they claim to represent – anywhere in the country.'
After Friday's verdict, Biden said he was 'angry and concerned', but insisted that the verdict should be respected.
'While the verdict in Kenosha will leave many Americans feeling angry and concerned, myself included, we must acknowledge that the jury has spoken,' he said.
'I ran on a promise to bring Americans together, because I believe that what unites us is far greater than what divides us. I know that we're not going to heal our country's wounds overnight, but I remain steadfast in my commitment to do everything in my power to ensure that every American is treated equally, with fairness and dignity, under the law.
'I urge everyone to express their views peacefully, consistent with the rule of law. Violence and destruction of property have no place in our democracy.'
Rittenhouse on Monday night said that he wanted Biden to take another look at the case.
'Mr President, if I would say one thing to you, I would urge you to go back and watch the trial, and understand the facts before you make a statement,' he said.
'It's actual malice, defaming my character for him to say something like that.
'It's quite hysterical how nobody can go back and look at the facts of the case.
'He crossed state lines, false. He's a white supremacist, false. None of that is true.
'The lies that they can get away with spreading just sickening and it's a disgrace to this country.'
Rittenhouse said he had 'really good lawyers' who were looking into defamation charges.
THE NIGHT OF AUGUST 25, 2020
Rittenhouse was in Kenosha on August 24 for his job as a lifeguard, and stayed overnight in the city at his friend Dominick Black's house due to the curfew. On August 25 the pair of them went out to assist the clean up, and then - as they saw it - protect the city from rioting
Rittenhouse gave Carlson a vivid account of the events in Kenosha on the night in question.
'Well, it actually started on August 24,' said Rittenhouse.
'I was working my job as a lifeguard at the RecPlex in Kenosha county and the riots were still going on and a curfew was applied.'
He said that, as the curfew came into force, he stayed the night in Kenosha at the house of Dominick Black, a 19-year-old friend of his who at the time was dating his sister.
Black and Rittenhouse 'saw the videos of the riots and the arson going on,' Rittenhouse told Carlson.
'It was upsetting because Kenosha is my community,' he said.
'And I just was upset seeing my community up in flames.'
Rittenhouse said: 'We wake up in the morning and we were talking, let's go help our community.
'Let's go see what we can do and ended up at Reuther Central high school where we were cleaning graffiti for a couple of hours, and then we met with the owners of Car Source, and we offered to protect their business from fires, making sure their other two properties didn't get burned down like they did the night prior, and they agreed.'
Rittenhouse and Black returned home in the afternoon, then resumed the patrol in the evening.
He insisted he was not part of a militia - he told Carlson he had no idea what a militia was, until his lawyer referenced it after the shooting - but was there to protect property and administer minor first aid.
Rittenhouse said that the city of Kenosha was chaotic.
Asked by Carlson whether many people were carrying guns, Rittenhouse replied: 'There were a lot of people, like there were rioters with firearms.
'I remember one very succinctly, Joshua Zeminski, was walking around with a pistol in his hand all that night with Joseph Rosenbaum.'
Rosenbaum, 36, was at the unrest after having just been discharged from a hospital in Milwaukee, following a suicide attempt.
He had had a troubled life, with a stepfather who molested him and problems with drugs and homelessness. He spent most of his adult life in prison starting at age 18 for sexual conduct with five preteen boys.
On the night of August 25, 2020, he was unarmed and carried a plastic bag containing a toothbrush, toothpaste, socks, deodorant and some papers.
'The first time I saw Rosenbaum was the first time he threatened to kill me,' Rittenhouse told Carlson.
Shortly before the attack, and armed with a rifle slung across his body, Rittenhouse told the reporter he was a certified EMT and explained he was patrolling the streets of Kenosha to provide medical attention to anyone who had been injured, as well as protecting businesses from looters
Rittenhouse is seen on the night of August 25, 2020 in Kenosha
'It was at the corner of the Car Source lot that I was at primarily that night, and I was asking people if they needed medical and he came up to me and Ryan Balch said: 'If I catch any of you M-F-ers alone I'm going to F-ing kill you.'
'It was quite shocking.
'I was like, why would somebody threaten to kill me. I'm just asking if people need help on both sides.
'I was there just to help anybody that needed it, and shockingly, the only people I helped that night were rioters.
'When he threatened to kill me I was like, what the heck just happened? Nobody has ever threatened to kill me up until that point.
'I was like, that's not something you say to somebody.'
Rittenhouse told Carlson that he and Rosenbaum crossed paths again, about 90 minutes later.
'It was about an hour and a half later, and there was actually a second time he said to the group, he said, this is the second time he threatened to kill everybody.
'He said, I'm going to f**king kill you, cut your hearts out you f**king N words.
'What I noticed is the rioters were trying - they were like disassociating with him because he was like spewing the N word around and they just didn't seem to want to have anything to deal with him, the rioters.'
Rittenhouse said he shot Rosenbaum because he tried to grab his gun.
The Illinois-born teenager said he ran away from the scene, and was then attacked by 'Jump Kick Man', another of the protesters.
Now on the floor, Rittenhouse found himself being attacked, he told Carlson.
'I kept running to get to the police,' he said.
'And that's when Anthony Huber strikes me with a skateboard as I'm running when I'm on the ground the first time.
'And I'm hit with a rock by somebody in a white tank top and that's how I end up on the ground.
'And I have four people around me from what I remember.
'And I move my firearm in the direction and they back off with their hands up so I don't shoot them.
'And then Jump Kick Man keeps coming and that's when I fired two shots at Jump Kick Man.
'After Jump Kick Man is running off, Anthony Huber comes up and he grabs the barrel of my gun and then he hits me with his skateboards, holding his trucks, and that's when I shoot him one time.'
Both Huber and Rosenbaum died from their injuries.
Kyle Rittenhouse was arrested August 26, 2020 in his hometown of Antioch, Illinois and charged with first degree intentional homicide over the shooting death of two protesters in Kenosha, Wisconsin the previous day
Rittenhouse then shot a third man, who survived - Gage Grossgreutz - the only one of the victims to be carrying a firearm.
'After Mr Huber attacks me, Mr Grossgreutz puts his hands up, and then I have my rifle pointed in his direction for about a second.
'He has his gun pointed directly at my head.
'He had it pointed directly at my head and that's when I shoot him one time and he is no longer a threat to me at that point because he ran off after I fired that shot.'
He said he was grateful there was so much video footage, shot by both protesters and counter-protesters and professional crews, from the night.
Asked what would have happened if there was no footage, Rittenhouse replied: 'I can't even imagine. I don't think we would be sitting here right now having this talk, Tucker.'
HANDING HIMSELF OVER
Rittenhouse told Carlson that after his shot Rosenbaum and Huber he was in a terrible physical and mental state.
'I was dizzy. I was vomiting. I couldn't breathe,' he said.
The teenager went to police, expecting to hand himself over, but told Carlson he found them to be dismissive.
Video shows Kenosha officers waving Rittenhouse past, despite him having his hands up, seemingly surrendering.
'I make it to the police cruiser, the police officer says get back. Get back. Get back.
'One of them has a gun out. Another has pepper spray pointed at me, and I say, I just had to shoot somebody, I just had to shoot somebody - and they say go home.
'And I didn't know this until -. The officer said to go home. I don't think he knew what happened or heard me. There was a lot of chaos going on.
'But apparently, he pepper sprayed me. You see it in the video but I don't remember being pepper sprayed by him.'
Rittenhouse is shown opening fire on Joseph Rosenbaum on the night of August 25
Rittenhouse said he walked past the police line, and met up with his friends at another Car Source lot, telling them what had happened.
'I tell everybody there what happened,' Rittenhouse said.
'I said, I had to do it. I was just attacked.
'I was dizzy. I was vomiting. I couldn't breathe.
'And I was like, we couldn't - I wanted to turn myself into the police in Kenosha but I wasn't able to because they weren't accepting visitors, apparently with the barricades and the fence up so we ended up turning myself into the Antioch police department.
'I had to go to Antioch police department, which, to my understanding, is the closest police department to Kenosha.'
He handed himself over to police in his home town of Antioch, Illinois, the following morning at 6am and was surprised to be arrested.
'I was in shock. My head was spinning from being hit in the head multiple times. I had some minor injuries.
'I didn't know I was going to be arrested for defending myself, because everything was on video but part of the reason why I think I was arrested is because of the mob mentality.
'And they were like, oh, yes, we're just going to arrest him even though there were videos already out showing me being attacked and having to defend myself.
'I was formally arrested without a criminal complaint being drafted.
'They didn't know what they were charging me with yet. They just arrested me.'
UNSCRUPULOUS LAWYERS
Rittenhouse was represented initially by Lin Wood and John Pierce.
The pair are known for their passionate defense of right-wing figures: Pierce is now representing many of the Capitol rioters, and Wood was one of the most passionate pro-Trump legal voices making false claims of 'election fraud'.
Rittenhouse accused attorneys Lin Wood (pictured left) and John Pierce of raising money on his behalf but for their own benefit
John Pierce is pictured with Kyle Rittenhouse, his mother Wendy and sister Faith. Pierce represented Rittenhouse from August 2020 for just over three months
Yet Rittenhouse told Carlson he did not believe Wood and Pierce were acting in his best interests.
He was advised to speak to The Washington Post, which he now believes was a mistake.
He was also flown by Pierce to Florida to meet members of the white supremacist Proud Boys group, which saw him lumped into the same group as the far-right agitators.
His lawyers said he was part of a militia - although Rittenhouse said he had no idea what a militia was.
'John Pierce said I was an unorganized militia, which was just blatantly false,' Rittenhouse said.
'I didn't know militia was until after the fact, until like November 25, when I was watching some of the interviews he did.
'I was like - I'm not in a militia. I don't know what that is.
'I was like, what the heck, and I'm like, no wonder people are saying I'm in a militia.
'It's because he painted that narrative which he should have never have gone there too.'
Lin Wood, a pro-Trump lawyer, also jumped to assist the Rittenhouse family, but Kyle now believes he did not have his best interests at heart
And he said the lawyers kept him in jail longer than necessary, to help further their own narrative.
'My own lawyer said I would be safer off in jail,' he said.
'I was in jail for 87 days
'They could have had me back in Wisconsin by mid September
'But they wanted to keep me in jail until November 20.'
Rittenhouse said he had no running water in his jail cell.
'I had a desk. I had a shower. I had a toilet. I had a TV. I had a tablet. But I didn't have running water,' he told Carlson.
'I had a phone also - but I did not have running water, so I didn't shower until November 20th.
'From October 30 to November 20, I did not take a shower.
'I felt terrible, I lost weight. My health was degrading.
'If I was in there for a month longer I probably would have been in the hospital.
'No running water in my jail cell.
'I didn't really say anything about my running water because I don't like to bring attention to myself.
'I didn't want to draw any problems with any of the guards.
'So I was like, I'm just going to shut up and not mention that I don't have running water.'
He said that his first shower, after being bailed, was around three hours long - and traumatic for his body.
'My skin was bleeding, it was coming off of my body. It was the nastiest thing ever.
'I feel bad for Dave, because he had to be with me in the car for that three hour ride, and I smelt terrible.'
RACE AND PROTESTS
His unanimous acquittal prompted accusations from the left that a 'racist' two-tier justice system favors white defendants and gives a green light to heavily-armed vigilantes.
Conservatives, meanwhile, have lauded Rittenhouse for protecting his community against lawlessness and pointed out that not a single person he shot at during the fiery chaos was black.
Chicago: Over a thousand demonstrators gathered at Federal Plaza in Chicago on Saturday to protest the acquittal
'It never had anything to do with race,' Rittenhouse told Carlson.
'It had to do with the right to self defense.
'I'm not a racist person.
'I support the BLM movement and peacefully demonstrating.
'I believe there's a lot of prosecutorial misconduct, not just in my case but in other cases,' said Rittenhouse.
The teenager said his case - with numerous mistruths being spread - made him realize how many miscarriages of justice there must be, especially for people without the high profile and resources he had.
'It's just amazing to see how much a prosecutor can take advantage of someone,' he said.
Thomas Binger, prosecuting, shocked many in the court by brandishing Rittenhouse's gun during closing arguments on November 15
Kyle Rittenhouse, now 18, is seen in the courtroom during his two-week trial
Prosecution and defense are seen on November 16, awaiting the beginning of the proceedings
Defense attorney Mark Richards began closing statements on November 15, claiming Assistant District Attorney Thomas Binger 'lied to the jury's faces'
FUTURE PLANS
Rittenhouse told Carlson that he hoped to now live a quiet, simple and anonymous life.
'I'm hoping I can live a quiet stress-free life, and be free of any intimidation or harassment and just go on with my life as a normal 18-year-old kid attending college,' he said.
Rittenhouse has already begun a course in nursing at Arizona State University.
He hopes to attend in-person, on campus. He is also now considering switching to study law.
Asked whether he expected to be simply left alone, Rittenhouse replied: 'I can't read the future.
'I'm hoping that people go back in and understand the facts and be like, watch the trial, watch the prosecutorial misconduct that I believe happened.
'And realize that I was an innocent 17-year-old who was violently attacked and defended myself.
'And apparently a lot of people on the left, it's criminal to want to protect your community.'
Rittenhouse said he felt he had been unfairly maligned during the past 15 months.
'I feel my life has been extremely defamed by it,' he said.
'I don't think I would be able to go out and get a job and not have to deal with harassment.
'But I'm at a place now to where I have to have people with me, because people want to kill me just because I defended myself, and they are too ignorant to look at the facts of what happened.
'I see some of the threats. Some of the things people say is absolutely sickening.'
He said he never intended to be famous, and did not seek the spotlight.
He said he does not want to be held up as a poster boy for any cause, and wishes anonymity.
'It is far from the life I planned. This is something that I wish never would have happened. But it did and we can't change that,' he said.
'How polarized it became is absolutely sickening. Right or left.
'People using me for a cause that should never have been used as a cause.'
Rittenhouse said he will not remain in the Mid West, where his family live.
'Before this I actually wanted to move to Naples, Florida. Then this happened,' he said.
'But I don't know where I'm going to go. I'm going to go lay low and live my life and enjoy it.
'I believe God has been on my side from the beginning.
WHY HE SPOKE TO FOX NEWS
Carlson said Rittenhouse was 'a sweet kid', and before the interview told DailyMail.com he felt the teenager wanted to set the record straight.
'He's 18. He didn't get into this to make a political point. This is his community and they were burning it down,' said Carlson, speaking to DailyMail.com hours before his exclusive interview aired on Monday on Tucker Carlson Tonight.
'I don't think he sees himself as a poster boy for anything. In fact, he emphatically doesn't. And that's part of the tragedy of it, I don't think he ever wanted any of this.'
Carlson had a production crew embedded with Rittenhouse and his legal team throughout the murder trial for an hour-long documentary to be screened next month on subscription service, Fox Nation.
Carlson is adamant that jurors reached the appropriate verdict despite what he slams as a slew of racist smears and groundless links to white supremacy from liberal commentators.
'What's so distressing, is that nobody seems willing to assess Kyle Rittenhouse on his own terms,' Carlson said of the Antioch, Illinois native.
'My view after spending a few hours with him and talking to him about his life is that he was not an especially political kid. You know, he liked Andrew Yang.
'He was a 17-year-old kid from a working class family who always had a job. He was a fry cook, a lifeguard, this is not someone from a privileged background - just the opposite.
'He wasn't in a militia. He had no weird views on race. If anything, he's probably pretty liberal on race.
'He went to Kenosha because a bunch of his relatives lived there, he worked there and he was upset because of what was happening there.
'The police were doing nothing about it. The mayor of Kenosha was doing nothing about it. The governor of Wisconsin allowed it to happen. And so it fell to the 17-year-old kid.
'The kid takes a stand against violence and he's immediately threatened.'
Carlson said he supported Rittenhouse's version of events from the start because he watched video clips of the shootings which would eventually form the bedrock of a successful defense which argued that Rosenbaum, Huber and Grosskreutz were the aggressors who presented a threat to his life.
Rittenhouse was dressed in a suit and tie for the interview as the family dined at Smokin' Jerry's Tiki Hut Bar & Grill in Placida, Florida on Sunday afternoon
In contrast, he says multiple commentators continue to repeat erroneous information on the case and that several oversees outlets were so confused by the US media's racially-focused narrative that they wrongly reported the 'victims' as black.
'The story had nothing to do with race. These were all entitled white kids,' Carlson told DailyMail.com.
'Why did they think that? Because that was the implication of the American media coverage.
'Why would you do that? Why would you make people hate each other more on the basis of their race?
'It's impossible to get that stuff back in the bottle. They're destroying the country. They're literally destroying the country.'
Carlson has faced criticism himself from rival media outfits, with CNN's Brian Stelter accusing his upcoming documentary of exploiting a tragedy to 'drive subscriptions' for Fox Nations.
Rittenhouse lawyer Mark Richards also told CNN's Chris Cuomo that he disapproved of giving access to a film crew but understood the teenager needed to raise money to crowdfund his defense.
'We weren't part of Kyle Rittenhouse's defense team, that's not our job. Our job is to get as much information as we can and deliver it to our viewers,' countered Carlson, whose producers have denied paying Rittenhouse or offering any similar financial incentive.
'It's funny, I mean CNN has literally worked hand in hand with the Department of Justice to punish the enemies of the Joe Biden administration. That's very sinister.
'We have very capable producers and they were able to get more information about the case than CNN was able to get.'
Member of the right praised Rittenhouse's acquittal, including Rep Marjorie Taylor Greene
Carlson, before Monday night's broadcast, said he was hopeful viewers would take the time to watch his show so they can make up their own minds about the catastrophic shooting and the ensuing, 19-day trial that gripped the US.
'I still believe in the core premise of journalism which is, if you bring people facts, some percentage of them will make up their own mind in a rational, thoughtful way,' he said.
'I supported him from day one because I watched the video. I didn't think that he broke the law and that turned out to be true. But I didn't know him and so this gives people an hour of video to assess what they think of him.
'People will reach their own conclusions, but, you know, no one who watches this will come away thinking Rittenhouse is some kind of hater because he certainly isn't.
'And how dare people make the claim that he's a white supremacist. I hope he sues the sh*t out of everyone who said that because it's just so dishonest. It's mind boggling actually.'
As for the future, Carlson fears it will prove incredibly difficult for Rittenhouse to resume anything resembling a normal life.
'As far as I can tell, he wants to get a nursing degree at Arizona State University. My own adult take on that is that, that might be pretty hard,' Carlson added.
'I don't know if he understands because he's been in jail and in the middle of a murder trial. I don't think he has perspective on how famous he's become and what a symbol he's become. I don't think he gets that. I mean, how could he get that?'
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